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		<title>By: Really Now?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Really Now?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Christian parents would you sell your daughter to be a &quot;‘tok khiew&quot; to pay off your debts?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Recently the term ‘tok khiew’ has meant farmers pledging their young daughters to the procurers in exchange for money to buy such things as houses or pick-up trucks. The young girls may be pledged as young as Prathom 5 (grade 5) and when they finish the compulsory Prathom 6 they are sent into the brothels for a number of years to pay off their (parents) debts.

In response to this &quot;Rumpel&quot; from Thailand on soc.culture.thai said:

I have met girls that had been given to a brothel to work off a debt, many of them had stayed on after the first year or two (depending on the initial contract). None of the girls I ever talked to was angry with her parents, most send money home even if they&#039;re not required to do so by any contract, these prostitutes are just farm girls that make money selling sex - a job as any other. When I encountered this first (somewhere in the 60&#039;s, I was as shocked as you - how could parents do such a thing? Well, it&#039;s a different culture and unless you make it a problem such as labeling this job immoral or bad it&#039;s not a problem at all)


&quot;Well, it&#039;s a different culture and unless you make it a problem such as labeling this job immoral or bad it&#039;s not a problem at all)&quot;

I think this maybe the key to the right kind of thinking. Prostitution is not an immoral job?
The quote isn&#039;t from me.

http://www.sexwork.com/Thailand/child.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Christian parents would you sell your daughter to be a &quot;‘tok khiew&quot; to pay off your debts?</b><br />Recently the term ‘tok khiew’ has meant farmers pledging their young daughters to the procurers in exchange for money to buy such things as houses or pick-up trucks. The young girls may be pledged as young as Prathom 5 (grade 5) and when they finish the compulsory Prathom 6 they are sent into the brothels for a number of years to pay off their (parents) debts.</p>
<p>In response to this &quot;Rumpel&quot; from Thailand on soc.culture.thai said:</p>
<p>I have met girls that had been given to a brothel to work off a debt, many of them had stayed on after the first year or two (depending on the initial contract). None of the girls I ever talked to was angry with her parents, most send money home even if they&#8217;re not required to do so by any contract, these prostitutes are just farm girls that make money selling sex &#8211; a job as any other. When I encountered this first (somewhere in the 60&#8242;s, I was as shocked as you &#8211; how could parents do such a thing? Well, it&#8217;s a different culture and unless you make it a problem such as labeling this job immoral or bad it&#8217;s not a problem at all)</p>
<p>&quot;Well, it&#8217;s a different culture and unless you make it a problem such as labeling this job immoral or bad it&#8217;s not a problem at all)&quot;</p>
<p>I think this maybe the key to the right kind of thinking. Prostitution is not an immoral job?<br />
The quote isn&#8217;t from me.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sexwork.com/Thailand/child.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sexwork.com/Thailand/child.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Angeltress</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angeltress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because this is &quot;a different culture&quot; doesn&#039;t make it right to prostitute one&#039;s own children...I think you know that, don&#039;t you?
Suppose it were their young sons that were being sold to be  &quot;‘tok khiew&quot;?  The boys are fine with it, because it has been a part of their culture as long as they can remember. It isn&#039;t a problem, they say, unless you make it one.
Suppose you were to find that this culture thought it was okay to sacrifice the children born to these prostitutes...say they put them alive into a fire every spring in order to ensure a good crop that year? Nobody in that culture thinks it is a problem, so why would you?
Maybe they want to abandon their sick, disabled, and elderly in the wilderness, to die?  Would that be okay with you?
I don&#039;t know about you, but, for me, any and all of these things is a problem in human rights. 
Notice, I did not say that it is a problem for me because of my religion, although that is also true.
No, I said that it is a problem of HUMAN RIGHTS...and everyone ought to be concerned.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Uncommon Sense</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because this is &quot;a different culture&quot; doesn&#8217;t make it right to prostitute one&#8217;s own children&#8230;I think you know that, don&#8217;t you?<br />
Suppose it were their young sons that were being sold to be  &quot;‘tok khiew&quot;?  The boys are fine with it, because it has been a part of their culture as long as they can remember. It isn&#8217;t a problem, they say, unless you make it one.<br />
Suppose you were to find that this culture thought it was okay to sacrifice the children born to these prostitutes&#8230;say they put them alive into a fire every spring in order to ensure a good crop that year? Nobody in that culture thinks it is a problem, so why would you?<br />
Maybe they want to abandon their sick, disabled, and elderly in the wilderness, to die?  Would that be okay with you?<br />
I don&#8217;t know about you, but, for me, any and all of these things is a problem in human rights.<br />
Notice, I did not say that it is a problem for me because of my religion, although that is also true.<br />
No, I said that it is a problem of HUMAN RIGHTS&#8230;and everyone ought to be concerned.<br /><b>References : </b><br />Uncommon Sense</p>
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		<title>By: G C</title>
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		<dc:creator>G C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the responsibility of the father to provide for the children and not the other way around.  Besides, destroying ones innocence is a sin.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the responsibility of the father to provide for the children and not the other way around.  Besides, destroying ones innocence is a sin.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good luck with that..&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good luck with that..<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would make WILLING prostitution legal, but not selling your daughter to prostitution. I think if somebody chooses to make their money by having sex, why not let them?&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would make WILLING prostitution legal, but not selling your daughter to prostitution. I think if somebody chooses to make their money by having sex, why not let them?<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: byHisgrace</title>
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		<dc:creator>byHisgrace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re thinking that parents that prostitute their young daughters is not immoral because it&#039;s accepted in certain countries?  Really?  I always thought God defined what was moral or immoral. I&#039;m pretty sure God wouldn&#039;t agree with you, so why are you coming to Christians with this, when you know we go by the Word of God?  No, it isn&#039;t ok just because it&#039;s a &quot;different culture.&quot;   Sin is sin, and God isn&#039;t going to ignore any sin, no matter where it comes from.

Jesus says it pretty clearly:
Jesus said, &quot;If anyone causes these (children) to stumble, it would be better for them to tie a millstone around their neck and cast themself into the sea.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re thinking that parents that prostitute their young daughters is not immoral because it&#8217;s accepted in certain countries?  Really?  I always thought God defined what was moral or immoral. I&#8217;m pretty sure God wouldn&#8217;t agree with you, so why are you coming to Christians with this, when you know we go by the Word of God?  No, it isn&#8217;t ok just because it&#8217;s a &quot;different culture.&quot;   Sin is sin, and God isn&#8217;t going to ignore any sin, no matter where it comes from.</p>
<p>Jesus says it pretty clearly:<br />
Jesus said, &quot;If anyone causes these (children) to stumble, it would be better for them to tie a millstone around their neck and cast themself into the sea.&quot;<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: hearts_rsweet</title>
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		<dc:creator>hearts_rsweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um what kind of question is this? 
Christians would never do this. And if a Christian did, (it&#039;s not my place to judge), but don&#039;t think ALL Christians would. 
Prostitution or whatever is bad, and shouldn&#039;t be used for anything including getting money. 
Use common sense, (or no, don&#039;t hurt your brain too much), read the Bible.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um what kind of question is this?<br />
Christians would never do this. And if a Christian did, (it&#8217;s not my place to judge), but don&#8217;t think ALL Christians would.<br />
Prostitution or whatever is bad, and shouldn&#8217;t be used for anything including getting money.<br />
Use common sense, (or no, don&#8217;t hurt your brain too much), read the Bible.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: bob g</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s better to cut your own eyes out then for you to look at pornography!  That being said what do you think the answer is?&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s better to cut your own eyes out then for you to look at pornography!  That being said what do you think the answer is?<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: love</title>
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		<dc:creator>love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try category culture and groups.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Christians can not and would not consider this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try category culture and groups.<br /><b>References : </b><br />Christians can not and would not consider this.</p>
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